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		<title>By: Ian Pattinson</title>
		<link>http://www.spinneyhead.co.uk/archives/2010/02/21/conspiracy-theories-are-the-new-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Pattinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspiracy theorists see what they want to see then find the &quot;facts&quot; that will back it up.  Anything that casts doubt on their world view is dismissed, usually as being part of the conspiracy.

1.  Not your kind of christians, maybe.  I&#039;d love to see the religion taken out of politics, but it&#039;s not happened yet.

2.  Paranoia, pure and simple.  Anyone who cuts their carbon footprint is going to find government gets less money from them.

3.  Not having a TV I don&#039;t pay a TV licence either.  The main bias you dislike in Auntie is its attachment to the truth.

4.  And Tom Clancy dropped a jumbo on the state of the union speech in one of his books.  You&#039;re inventing a conspiracy on top of your conspiracy.

5.  You really don&#039;t understand evolution.  You&#039;re a creationist Stewart, you subscribe to something which is nearer to a conspiracy than any of the invented ones you&#039;re scared of.  It&#039;s more interested in keeping people uninformed and pumped full of misinformation and lies than any of the people you disparage in your weak throwaway insults and it&#039;s obviously rotting your brain.  I&#039;ve countered every weak argument you could come up with against evolution in comment threads on your own blog.  You&#039;re just too blind and stubborn to accept that you&#039;re wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy theorists see what they want to see then find the &#8220;facts&#8221; that will back it up.  Anything that casts doubt on their world view is dismissed, usually as being part of the conspiracy.</p>
<p>1.  Not your kind of christians, maybe.  I&#8217;d love to see the religion taken out of politics, but it&#8217;s not happened yet.</p>
<p>2.  Paranoia, pure and simple.  Anyone who cuts their carbon footprint is going to find government gets less money from them.</p>
<p>3.  Not having a TV I don&#8217;t pay a TV licence either.  The main bias you dislike in Auntie is its attachment to the truth.</p>
<p>4.  And Tom Clancy dropped a jumbo on the state of the union speech in one of his books.  You&#8217;re inventing a conspiracy on top of your conspiracy.</p>
<p>5.  You really don&#8217;t understand evolution.  You&#8217;re a creationist Stewart, you subscribe to something which is nearer to a conspiracy than any of the invented ones you&#8217;re scared of.  It&#8217;s more interested in keeping people uninformed and pumped full of misinformation and lies than any of the people you disparage in your weak throwaway insults and it&#8217;s obviously rotting your brain.  I&#8217;ve countered every weak argument you could come up with against evolution in comment threads on your own blog.  You&#8217;re just too blind and stubborn to accept that you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart Cowan</title>
		<link>http://www.spinneyhead.co.uk/archives/2010/02/21/conspiracy-theories-are-the-new-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, conspiracy &#039;theorists&#039; don&#039;t invent things they want to happen - they think something is amiss with the official story and look for other possibilities - based on evidence, testimonies, motives, logic, common sense and lessons from history.

Anyway, allow me to demolish your arguments faster than a controlled demolition on 9/11 - notice that I&#039;m telling you *facts*...

“1) The theory: mass immigration is being used to re-engineer society.”

These engineers aren&#039;t &#039;Christian&#039;. If they were, they wouldn&#039;t be dismantling our Judeo-Christian laws and culture. Because this has been key to our success as a nation, it is being dismantled to your detriment and mine.

If you think only Christians will be affected by Islam, you&#039;re kidding yourself.

BTW, this re-engineering has been ADMITTED! You have a problem with facts and admissions on record.


“2) The theory: climate change is not primarily manmade, but is a ruse to impose a world government which will tax and control us.”

You think only dumb people will pay higher taxes? I wouldn&#039;t like your tax bill then (sorry, obvious joke). The FACT (not theory) is that a world government is being set up to collect taxes and make laws. This means that very soon, this global government scam plus the EU means that the British will have practically no say at all in how we are governed.

And you think they will not tax you heavily. I would laugh were it not so tragic.

“3) The theory: the BBC is a propaganda machine for liberals and socialists.”

I don&#039;t pay for a TV licence. Anyway the BBC has ADMITTED to certain biases and prejudices. 

“4) The theory: the 9/11 attacks were an inside job.”

Racism? Let me guess, you had a New Labour/BBC &quot;education&quot;. If you&#039;re not following the political whims of the day, you&#039;re a &#039;racist&#039;, &#039;misogynist&#039;, &#039;homophobe&#039; or &#039;xenophobe&#039;. It&#039;s difficult to argue with people who don&#039;t have an argument.

As for TV, did you know that the CIA plants storylines into popular programmes? E.g. that bloke out the X-Files, also did the Lone Gunmen, Dean Haglund, admitted the CIA asked them to do a story about a hijacked jet headed for the twin towers and it was aired shortly before 9/11. It&#039;s how they operate - by putting notions into people&#039;s minds so that when the real thing happens, they are more likely to accept it. Even something so obviously fake as the official 9/11 report. Again, this has been ADMITTED. 

“5) The theory: the Theory of Evolution is a 19th Century misunderstanding, which is now clear from modern scientific discoveries.”

The inventors of this theory could never have imagined how complex life is. They thought a living cell was just a blob of goo, rather than something as complex as a city.

If scientists understood the *limits* of evolution, i.e. that changes can be made by random mutations, but not in such a way to create new organs, for example, then they would have to ditch the theory. But it is as ingrained in our society as Islam is in Saudi Arabia. If you want to talk about &quot;new religion&quot; it is evolution theory or climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, conspiracy &#8216;theorists&#8217; don&#8217;t invent things they want to happen &#8211; they think something is amiss with the official story and look for other possibilities &#8211; based on evidence, testimonies, motives, logic, common sense and lessons from history.</p>
<p>Anyway, allow me to demolish your arguments faster than a controlled demolition on 9/11 &#8211; notice that I&#8217;m telling you *facts*&#8230;</p>
<p>“1) The theory: mass immigration is being used to re-engineer society.”</p>
<p>These engineers aren&#8217;t &#8216;Christian&#8217;. If they were, they wouldn&#8217;t be dismantling our Judeo-Christian laws and culture. Because this has been key to our success as a nation, it is being dismantled to your detriment and mine.</p>
<p>If you think only Christians will be affected by Islam, you&#8217;re kidding yourself.</p>
<p>BTW, this re-engineering has been ADMITTED! You have a problem with facts and admissions on record.</p>
<p>“2) The theory: climate change is not primarily manmade, but is a ruse to impose a world government which will tax and control us.”</p>
<p>You think only dumb people will pay higher taxes? I wouldn&#8217;t like your tax bill then (sorry, obvious joke). The FACT (not theory) is that a world government is being set up to collect taxes and make laws. This means that very soon, this global government scam plus the EU means that the British will have practically no say at all in how we are governed.</p>
<p>And you think they will not tax you heavily. I would laugh were it not so tragic.</p>
<p>“3) The theory: the BBC is a propaganda machine for liberals and socialists.”</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t pay for a TV licence. Anyway the BBC has ADMITTED to certain biases and prejudices. </p>
<p>“4) The theory: the 9/11 attacks were an inside job.”</p>
<p>Racism? Let me guess, you had a New Labour/BBC &#8220;education&#8221;. If you&#8217;re not following the political whims of the day, you&#8217;re a &#8216;racist&#8217;, &#8216;misogynist&#8217;, &#8216;homophobe&#8217; or &#8216;xenophobe&#8217;. It&#8217;s difficult to argue with people who don&#8217;t have an argument.</p>
<p>As for TV, did you know that the CIA plants storylines into popular programmes? E.g. that bloke out the X-Files, also did the Lone Gunmen, Dean Haglund, admitted the CIA asked them to do a story about a hijacked jet headed for the twin towers and it was aired shortly before 9/11. It&#8217;s how they operate &#8211; by putting notions into people&#8217;s minds so that when the real thing happens, they are more likely to accept it. Even something so obviously fake as the official 9/11 report. Again, this has been ADMITTED. </p>
<p>“5) The theory: the Theory of Evolution is a 19th Century misunderstanding, which is now clear from modern scientific discoveries.”</p>
<p>The inventors of this theory could never have imagined how complex life is. They thought a living cell was just a blob of goo, rather than something as complex as a city.</p>
<p>If scientists understood the *limits* of evolution, i.e. that changes can be made by random mutations, but not in such a way to create new organs, for example, then they would have to ditch the theory. But it is as ingrained in our society as Islam is in Saudi Arabia. If you want to talk about &#8220;new religion&#8221; it is evolution theory or climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Realstreet &#187; Conspiracy theories revisited</title>
		<link>http://www.spinneyhead.co.uk/archives/2010/02/21/conspiracy-theories-are-the-new-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Realstreet &#187; Conspiracy theories revisited</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One of Real Street&#8217;s regular commentators, Ian Pattinson, has tried demolishing the arguments I made on my recent post about various conspiracy theories by posting his thoughts on his own blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One of Real Street&#8217;s regular commentators, Ian Pattinson, has tried demolishing the arguments I made on my recent post about various conspiracy theories by posting his thoughts on his own blog. [...]</p>
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